Oh, God.
Let's put aside Coletti's actual qualifications for a second and wonder what the heck Frank McCourt is thinking. Since DePo's firing, we've been told that we're going to emphasize the "Dodger way". I was rightfully scared by what this meant, but for the average Cora loving Dodger fan, this was a good thing. Since they are the clear majority, master of P.R. McCourt was on the right track. Then he ends up hiring a hated Giant, who has never been a general manager, as the G.M. Well, failed on that account. Consequently, any points that McCourt might have gotten for firing DePo have just gone out the window. Well done.
Maybe McCourt actually decided to take yet another hit and sign the best G.M. for the job. We don't know enough about Coletti to know if this is true or not. All we really have is an interview he did with Baseball Prospecuts, and a couple of quotes.
“This guy might be the most impressive first-impression guy I've ever met in my life. We talked for an hour in my office one day, and he never even talked about grabbing a bat. It was all about pitching."
Perhaps he should have been more concerned about Matheny's offense, considering his career high on base is .320. Matheny has a career OPS of .634, and a career OPS+ of 65. Coincidentally, this is the same OPS+ of Neifi Perez, the worst hitter of the last decade (who Colletti gave five million dollars to). A quote like this concerns me that Coletti might be a guy who values defense over anything else, no matter how fatal the players offensive shortcoming.
But when we're signing a player, especially an older one, many times it's not the dollar figure that holds you back, it's the number of years. We can't send $5 million to a mailbox because the player we have under contract isn't playing anymore.
This is a plus, but I don't know if Colletti practices what he preaches. The Giants entered this season as the oldest team in baseball, and the Giants will be handing a lot of paychecks to people over 35 in the next couple of years.
When we acquired J.T. Snow, Jose Vizcaino, Jeff Kent--all those guys were character players who had something to prove... People would tell us he's a selfish player, a loner, not a glowing report at all...He came to us as a good player, and he left as a great player, a potential Hall of Famer.
While it's good that he recognized that swallowing Kent's "bad chemistry" was a good thing, it's not like J.T. Snow and Jose Viscaino are anything to be proud of. Since 1998, Snow has been the Giants first baseman, producing largely average results (a career OPS+ of 106, mostly buoyed by his 1997 and his fluke .958 OPS 2004.). It's interesting the he mentions Vizcaino, since he was only with the Giants one year, and put up pretty bad numbers (.673 OPS, somewhat helped by a 107 rate2.) What's odd is that he promotes their character while dismissing chemistry. If this means he goes after hard workers only, I'm not too encouraged, as that starts firmly slipping into "scrappy" territory.
Having played Anaheim in the World Series, seeing them go first to third and other things like that, we wanted to bring some of that to our own team, run more, steal bases.
Gulp. Another example of learning the wrong lesson. (The Angels offense, while helped by their aggressiveness, were certainly helped by ranking sixth in baseball in OBP.)
Talking to Felipe (Alou) about him, he said Neifi could play second, short and third, that he'd be an above-average fielder, a guy who'd occasionally get a big hit and who knew how to play the game. We felt that was a player we could use.
Double gulp. Taking someone who can "ocassionally get a big hit" is not a good thing.
It's our view you can never have enough pitching. If you're short in another area, you can always trade pitching, because it's the toughest commodity to find.
Is anyone else baffled by this sentence?
(In refrence to closers)...but also to know who your people are--who has the mindset to do the job. Who can handle the toughest three outs of the game: the last three. You need the mindset, talent, and durability, both physical and emotional
"Closer mentatlity". Not a good thing. If he believes in this, why did the Giants get LaTroy Hawkins?
How a player approaches the game, how he approaches life, far outweighs what the stat line looks like.
Probably the most damning sentence of them all. While things like mental makeup do have an effect, they are not nearly as important as the stat line. What a player has actually accomplished is far more important than what they think they can accomplish. A postive mindset will show its effects throughout all levels of the baseball system, not just magically emerge once the player hits the bigs.
This interview does not inspire me. While Colletti shows some good qualities, he ignores chemistry, which gives me some confidence that Bradley will return, and he supposedly doesn't like giving 40 year olds money, there are far more negatives. He seems to cling to almost every thought that sabermetrics has long since abondoned: the importance of mental makeup, the need for aggressive baserunning, the closer mentality, the over emphasis on defense, all of these things make me unoptimistic about Colletti's reign. Maybe he'll suddenly change his ways when he gets his own team, but I won't hold my breath.
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"While things like mental makeup do have an effect, they are not nearly as important as the stat line."
ReplyDeleteComments like this exemplify everything that is hated about the "Moneyball" philosophy, and demonstrate the reason that it is so reviled by most long-time Dodger fans.
Question for Aaeamdar:
ReplyDeletePlease refresh my memory...how many playoff series have the "moneyball" teams (A's, Dodgers and Blue Jays) won?
I am thrilled by the hiring of Colletti, and I look forward to the moneyball era being relegated to the ash heap of Dodger history, wher it belongs.
I'm pretty sure Boston won a world series.
ReplyDeleteIf mental makeup had an effect, wouldn't it show up in the stat line? Anything that helps a player should show up in the stat line, right?
ReplyDeleteWhy is David Eckstein worthwhile? Is it because he trys hard? No, it's because he had a .360 OBP this year.
I'm sure Eckstein's mindset contributed to that, and without it, he wouldn't be in the league. In the end, effort means nothing, all that counts are results. However, effort does lead to results.
Is anyone else scratching their head about the closer line? Is he suggesting that the Dodgers don't have a good closer?
ReplyDeleteCuz I'm pretty sure that they do.
At this point, I don't give a fuck what kind of baseball the Dodgers play as long as we play it consistently. Unfortunately, andrew's article made Coletti's statments look pretty damn inconsistent. I am much more of a supporter of sabermetrics than small ball but, I seen them both win. Remember that recently the Redsox, a sabermetrics team, won the World Series in 2004 but, the Diamondbacks, Angels, Marlins, and Whitesox have all been small ball teams. You cannot discredit the small ball teams achievements to luck, as statistics would dictate.
ReplyDeleteThe major problem at hand is that Depo stacked our team with sabermetrically talented players and the Dodgers now have a GM who wants to play small ball, which is not best for the Dodger players current talents(OPB and OBPS). This most likely means McCourt will hire a small ball manager. We are almost at square one again as when Jim Tracy wanted to play small ball with Depo's moneyball players.
To turn the team back into a small ball or "Dodger way
team" will not happen without time.
It will take Coletti a couple years to turn the team into a small ball team as it took Depo a couple years to sabermetricise up the small ball mess of a team Kevin Malone and Dan Evans left him. During this time, the team may struggle contradicting it's self in the method of baseball they will be playing, as we saw Jim Tracy misuse many of Depo's monyball players, having them play small ball. The situation is no different than last season. So if Coletti fails in the next couple of years trying to reshape the team to his style of play and like Depo, never given long enough to see "his" team in action, what are you going to McCourt, hire a moneyball GM and manager next with Coltetti's small ball players??? Way to solve nothing McCourt, way to solve nothing.